Wednesday, July 22, 2020

RCP #3 Article: Appendix GR-B - ADS Pony Measurement Program

RCP #3 Article: Appendix GR-B 
Submitted by: Jeff Morse 

Current wording: 
ADS Ponies are 120cm to 148cm; with or without shoes; 149cm with shoes. 
1.1 ADS Small Ponies are 99cm to less than 120cm; with or without shoes. 
1.2 ADS VSEs are less than 99cm; with or without shoes. 
1.3 Animals will be measured prior to their first competition of each year until reaching the competition age of 8 years, after which they are eligible for a Permanent Card. 
1.4 ADS Measurement Cards are for the exclusive use of ADS competitions. 

Suggested wording: 
Add new: 
1.5 The height of animals with a current, valid ADS Measurement Card cannot be protested. 
1.6 The measurer must not measure animals owned or trained by a member of the measurer's immediate family, a person living under the same roof, nor a person with whom the measurer (exception: veterinarians) has a financial relationship, including a lease. 

Reason for change: 
The height of animals over 8 years should not be protestable. They have a permanent card at age 8 and should not grow. Younger competitive animals are measured annually and because of development and conditioning are going to change height. Sure, there will be some on the borderline but the increase in size in a few months to a year should not be enough to significantly affect results and it would only affect class status until they are re-measured for the next year. Making height non-protestable would avoid hearing processes and fees and the retroactive changing of results. It would keep scheduling from being disrupted by having to move entries to different classes at the last minute at an event. It would allow on site officials to concentrate on their jobs without having to stop.

18 comments:

  1. My name is: Tamara Woodcock
    My member number is: 017580

    #3. Proposed change is acceptable.

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  3. Support - Dana Bright ADS # 4436

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  4. RCP #3 ok as proposed


    Carol Hunter

    ADS #12335

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  5. RCP#3 – ok

    ADS member number 20191947
    Rebecca Burkheart

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  6. Member Name: Patricia Anselm ADS# 13621
    RCP #3 – I am in favor as the official measurement card should supersede any protests.

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  7. Tracey Morgan

    ADS # 13258
    RCP #3 agree

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  8. Rochelle Temple
    ADS Life Member #5096
    RCP 3: Agree

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  9. Esther R Wright ( Boots)
    Life member #5200
    #3 yes

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  10. RCP#3
    Claudia DeLorme
    member # 353

    I have just read the most recent additions/comments thus far received for RCP#3. My listed comment does NOT include all that I originally wrote and is incomplete.

    I maintained that as I had been informed that USEF permanent measurement cards were also to be accepted (and that a height conversion chart was created for ease of use) that they be included in 1.5 in that sentence as such for all the same reasons listed for creating the new rule:

    1.5 The height of animals with a current, valid ADS Measurement Card or a valid permanent USEF measurement card cannot be protested.

    This needs clarification - if necessary, would someone from the committee please contact me.

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  11. ADS number 12039070 - Leslie Granger
    RCP#3 - Agreed

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  12. Submitted by Ann McClure ADS #1190
    Article RCP #3 – Agree

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  13. Name: Tracey Turner
    ADS # 2181656
    RCP #3
    Great addition to the rules. I support this change.

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  14. Price Story member 9181
    3. ok

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  15. NAME: ERICA ROBB
    ADS#: 6951990
    RCP# 3: Yes and no. I support 1.5 (that heights may not be contested). But I think the last clause of 1.6 could prove to be awkward. What if the farrier/chiropractor/dentist (or the lawn mower guy for that matter) also happens to measure horses? What if you pay someone a fee to measure? Is the intent that only an ADS official or a veterinarian can measure?

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  16. Kasey Ashley, my ADS member number 11536.
    RCP No. 3
    I agree

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  17. RCP#3
    Tasha Wilkie ADS #8572
    Support

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