Submitted by: Hardy Zantke
Current wording:
GR 2.7 Junior and adult competition participants, e.g., anyone who rides on a vehicle at
any time at an event, are defined as follows:
a. The “competition age” of an individual will be the age reached during the current calendar year.b. “Junior A” – competition age: 10 and below. Junior A drivers must be accompanied by a knowledgeable adult horseman at all times.c. “Junior B” – competition age 11, 12, 13. Junior B drivers must be accompanied by a knowledgeable adult horseman at all times.EXCEPTION: Junior “B” drivers competing with a single Very Small Equine (VSE) turnout in a securely enclosed arena need not be accompanied by a knowledgeable adult horseman unless required by the organizer.d. “Junior C” – competition age 14, 15, 16, 17, 18. Junior C drivers competing with a single horse/pony turnout at their discretion need not carry a groom/passenger unless required by the competition.e. “Junior” – Unless otherwise defined: Competition age under 19.f. “Adult” – Competition age 19 and over.
Suggested wording:
Add new:
g: The knowledgeable adult horseman, as requested under item b & c above, nay
be the groom, when one is required, or may be an additional person - in which
case that person is subject to similar requirements and penalties as a groom.
Reason for change:
In Combined Driving Events no additional person is normally allowed on the carriage
besides the driver and the proper number of groom(s). At times Junior drivers do want
to have a knowledgeable adult horse person with them on the carriage next to them, but
also want to have a groom on the back step, both in the interest of safety. The LOC
agreed and issued a directive accordingly in their winter edition of their newsletter to all
licensed officials. This, however, not yet supported by our rules.
Note: The last sentence in this proposal is important to deal with normal groom down
penalties etc, which then need to be applied to all, the groom(s) as well as the
knowledgeable adult horse persons. Otherwise the groom might stay on the carriage
and have the knowledgeable adult horse person step down and fix that trace down for
example.
My name is: Tamara Woodcock
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Comments for
#1. Proposed change is acceptable
Carol Ilacqua
ReplyDeleteADS# 12037560
RCP#1 Article: GR 2.7 re: Grooms/Knowledgeable Adult
I agree with the proposed change.
Support Would be valuable for disabled drivers also
ReplyDeleteDana Bright
ADS # 4436
Janet Oliver
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RCP #1
I don't think that a 3rd person on a carriage is safe. Most carriages are not built to accommodate a 3rd person.
RCP#1 ok as proposed
ReplyDeleteCarol Hunter
ADS #12335
This is Hilary Miskoe, ADS #9717
ReplyDeleteI would like to comment on the following rule change proposals:
RCP#1 - no
I do not feel this is a good idea - three people on a carriage can be too many in a difficult situation (unbalanced) and if the idea is that a junior driver needs assistance, then don't complicate the situation by having too many people on the carriage. The person who can best offer assistance should be the one with the Jr. driver. If they need TWO people, should they be driving?
RCP#1 – ok
ReplyDeleteBurkheart, Rebecca
ADS member number 20191947
Member Name: Patricia Anselm ADS# 13621
ReplyDeleteRCP #1 – I am in favor as this clarification will help ensure an honest and level playing field.
Tracey Morgan
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RCP #1 agree
Rochelle Temple
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RCP 1: Agree
Esther R Wright ( Boots)
ReplyDeleteLife member #5200
#1 yes
Kevin & Marcia Fetherston - ADS Member # 3797240
ReplyDeleteRCP#1 Article: GR 2.7
I agree
ADS Member - Gale Pellegrino
ReplyDeleteADS # 11029
RCP#1 - No
Three people on a carriage should not be passed. The best person to assist the junior driver should accompany them in the carriage ONLY. If the parent is not trained in order to do so, then they should not be on the carriage to assist.
Submitted by Ann McClure ADS #1190
ReplyDeleteArticle RCP #1- Keyword is knowledgeable. Agree
Cheryl Pratt Rivers ADS# 032720 on proposed rule changes for 2021
ReplyDeleteI write to comment on proposed rule changes for 2021. I am a long time driver who has competed in both Pleasure Shows and CDEs from the training to the advanced level and have competed in Europe as well. I have attended several world championships as a spectator as well.
I am embarrassed that I have never paid much attention to rule change proposals before. This year though you have gotten my attention and I am writing with a sense of urgency and a deep disappointment at the direction of a couple of the changes. I appreciate the effort that people put into these changes, and support most of them. I oppose those that I believe will discourage and reduce participation in our sport which I believe is at risk for survival.
RCP#1- Support
Name: Tracey Turner
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RCP #1
I think this rule makes good sense and support it.
Price Story member 9181
ReplyDelete1. ok
NAME: ERICA ROBB
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RCP# 1: Agree. Sounds like this option would allow a junior driver to have knowledgeable support next to them (on the boxseat) and also have a groom for vehicle balance (on the backstep). If this is already an accommodation, as Hardy indicates, then it should be codified in the rules.
Kasey Ashley, my ADS member number 11536.
ReplyDeleteRCP No. 1.
I agree
RCP#1
ReplyDeleteTasha Wilkie ADS #8572
Support
Sterling Graburn
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RCP # 1
Agree